tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10853024.post355457603408269259..comments2024-03-12T20:20:35.830-05:00Comments on Organizing Notes: How Can a 'Peacenik' Vote for Clinton?Bruce K. Gagnonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10845856861232395427noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10853024.post-73426642667798983392016-03-25T18:10:29.700-05:002016-03-25T18:10:29.700-05:00How can a peacenik vote for the Bern? How will the...How can a peacenik vote for the Bern? How will the Bern change anything occurring in the Middle East, yes including Israel and the Palestine? There is the double the Bern speak.<br /><br />The tale of the two Berns.<br />At a March 1988 news conference endorsing Jesse Jackson’s candidacy for president, Bernie Sanders blasted Israel’s brutal treatment of Palestinian protesters as “an absolute disgrace.”<br />“The sight of Israeli soldiers breaking the arms and legs of Arabs is reprehensible. The idea of Israel closing down towns and sealing them off is unacceptable,” the then mayor of Burlington, Vermont, said to a gaggle of reporters.<br />Sanders was referring to the television images that shocked the world in those early months of the first intifada, of Israeli soldiers methodically breaking the limbs of Palestinian youths on the orders of then defense minister Yitzhak Rabin.<br />Fast forward to August 2014 and the Vermont senator struck a very different tone, angrily shouting at his constituents as they challenged his defense of Israel’s killing rampage in the Gaza Strip that summer.<br />“You have a situation where Hamas is sending missiles into Israel … from populated areas,” Sanders said, deploying standard Israeli government talking points.<br />When a member of the audience called out a question on whether Palestinians “have a right to resist,” Sanders shouted back, “Shut up! You don’t have the microphone!” and threatened to call in the police.<br />“Are you going to arrest people?” the constituent shouted back.<br />Sanders quickly diverted the conversation to the brutality of ISIS or Islamic State.<br /><br />And there is his no comment thus far how he would lessen the deep turmoil in the rest of the Middle East. Turmoil brought forth from direct US action. So expecting the situation to a calming effect without direct US actions is silly. elroyohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01224648265120532324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10853024.post-64387112886700503052016-03-25T16:14:00.737-05:002016-03-25T16:14:00.737-05:00No one with D or R after their name is going to br...No one with D or R after their name is going to break from their corporate masters. "The Obama administration has built more nuclear weapons, more nuclear warheads, more nuclear delivery systems, more nuclear factories [than the previous administration]. Nuclear warhead spending alone rose higher under Obama than under any American president. The cost over thirty years is more than $1 trillion. <br />A mini nuclear bomb is planned. [emphasis mine] It is known as the B61 Model 12. There has never been anything like it. General James Cartwright, a former Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has said, “Going smaller [makes using this nuclear]weapon more thinkable.” -- John PilgerLisa Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06319699936783253064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10853024.post-26092838092619628362016-03-24T23:02:08.018-05:002016-03-24T23:02:08.018-05:00Mrs Clinton continues to display a proclivity towa...Mrs Clinton continues to display a proclivity towards war and for whatever her reasons ongoing support for the weapons of war industries ... <br />As a man of peace my thinking and her thinking are at polar opposites .... <br />In the event she becomes the Democratic nominee for POTUS I will go Green.<br />Stan Levin<br />VFP Chapter 91 stan levinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16603313434827197994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10853024.post-14753527195340173702016-03-24T18:57:38.116-05:002016-03-24T18:57:38.116-05:00One friend here in Maine told me today that she ha...One friend here in Maine told me today that she has been working the phones for Bernie Sanders calling potential voters in states across the US. Before the Arizona primary she called a woman and they were reviewing where she would go to vote. As it turned out her voting place was 90 miles away in a different part of Arizona. My friend, a hard core Democrat, told me, "I'm starting to think you are right when you say it is the system."Bruce K. Gagnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10845856861232395427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10853024.post-41621448120730502472016-03-24T15:28:10.404-05:002016-03-24T15:28:10.404-05:00Thank you Bruce. I have never been able to underst...Thank you Bruce. I have never been able to understand how good people could vote for a corporate candidate that continues the "for profit wars" [same corporations own both Parties, they don't switch out they just keep it going as we saw when Obama took over after Bush] People have to understand it is not longer about the Dems or Reps and all about the corporations. There are many good people in both Parties but they can not stop the corporations until they stop voting Dem or Rep.corporate own candidates One should be more afraid of causing death for millions around the world and killing the planet, more then they should be afraid of Trump or any Rep candidate. And with less then 50% of the registered voters in the Dem or Rep Parties the other 50% plus all those unregistered can certainly vote in a Third Party candidate. But more then any thing you should have the right to vote for the person you want not the person you are afraid of. Greens have run in all elections and Dems have won many times so voting Green is not going to give you a Rep it is going to give you a clean conscious that you never voted for any corporate candidate that has killed people around the world and is killing the planet. It is all a lie to keep you voting for their candidates because there are a lot more of us then them!!! jill2016.com Jacquihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01984094516097924358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10853024.post-64282660486063442772016-03-24T14:29:54.189-05:002016-03-24T14:29:54.189-05:00Hear, hear - am in agreement with Bruce! Go Green...Hear, hear - am in agreement with Bruce! Go Green - support Dr. Jill Stein and her efforts to call out the War Machine which is used to support and reinforce the American Empire though the use of U.S. military, NATO Forces, and the Israeli regime. Zinn Readerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09236067512618741611noreply@blogger.com